Wednesday, March 1, 2017

is the desire to eat a mind parasite?

Looking at just the desire to eat, it could be composed of two parts, one a instinct and secondly, a mind parasite that sits there saying eat, eat.

Religions are mind parasites, and could this eat eat thought in the mind be something similar? Abandoning any concept of god, god is just a concept other people have, type of thinking is freeing, at we ratchet toward truth, is freeing and truth seeking. Stoic philosophy is good, as far as it goes, but it stops short of solving the problems of the world. Some problems just have no solution though.

We can believe wrong concepts, and these concepts take up residence in our mind. There is nothing we can do until we recognize these as wrong concepts, mind parasites. Then we can root them out. Perhaps it is as simple as liking food too much, over driven reward, or the only reward we like. Perhaps is is the desire for more energy, that has twisted us to eat. But perhaps it is just a mind parasite of the conceptual class. 

Monday, February 27, 2017

Opinion Masquerading as Stoic Philosophy

I will remind everyone that we live in a world of rising carbon dioxide levels and we humans are having lung/breathing issues and human energy production (common overeating) already. This suggests that the world is over populated unless we cut our production of carbon dioxide considerable. This means a throttling of live style, or returning to a population where the carbon dioxide level near level or less that 300 ppm. aka 1960 level of population.    

Opinion Masquerading as Stoic Philosophy

So there is this old philosophy which was created within a less evolved culture, some 2300 or is it 2700 or 2000 years ago. It had some guidelines on how to live, and different sages and authors had different guidelines, some of which are mutually exclusive. So a modern professor can pick from the various translation and documents and come up with a list that he likes, and say it is stoic doctrine, yet the belief may also be found elsewhere. So is it Stoic, if the Stoics copied it from elsewhere?

I think it is wonderful that someone would take the time to document what they actually believe. I do hope that this is what they actually do, not just what they would like to do. 

To live by virtue is all fine and good, but until the total list of virtues is listed and explored, and each virtue is defined well enough to live by, it is just talk. These people had the habit and the regulation of exposing all deformed children, and any ungifted when the ungifted was recognized, even against the mothers wishes. Men did not dare challenge the City state. Exile or death was often the other choice. How do we rationalize this with Stoicism unless Stoicism was but a minor philosophy? Now, I think that living by virtue is a good thing, but it is the selection of the virtues that becomes the real issue.

Second issue is vegetarianism. No culture has had success as vegetarian, although many adult individuals do survive at strict vegetarians. Modern vegetarian mothers produce a high frequency of autistic children. As some autism relates to short neuron column spacing, it may be related to the protein and fat supply during early growth, conception to two or three years. I coach archery, and some are very slow or never do develop muscles. These people have always turned out to be either vegetarians or dietetics. The senors are frequently on stations also that dis troy muscle growth. For these reasons I have doubt that vegetarianism is good for active people, but I do not care what others actually do. I do not have the right to push my views onto others, but I do have the right to express my views, and if you get huffy or are offended, it is your problem.

"V. I will reject nationalism and any other kind of parochial view of humanity. My creed is that of cosmopolitanism."

and Paul "Examples include adherence to in-group doctrine, hostility to and claims of superiority over out-groups, and seeking out evidence (and company) that reinforces rather than challenges our existing beliefs."

We may need to make substantial change in our lives if we grew up and worked under tyrants until we obtained logical independence. Our views, beliefs, values may need to be adjusted multiple times in our lives for our survival. In some professions, that take guidance or direction from government, rejecting nationalism is just not an option. What I am getting at is some rules cannot be rationally applied for some people. That is not saying that these are not good rules in theory.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that some guidelines are just not applicable to some lives, and some realities. It is apparent we humans are due a major die off, and that decision, or the decision to live, will be made by each individual, group, Provence, Country.

Trump is trying to shut down immigration. Is that so bad to stabilize the US population, even if the expressed political reason is wrong? How much political following would he get if he said, "the Co2 is rising. We need to stabilize or cut our population, but we do not want to cut our lifestyle, which produces half of the Co2. So we could let those refugees die overseas, and we need to increase our defense systems to be able to prevent the brown hoards from taking over and we need to block them from coming in. Let them die off elsewhere." 

But I live in Canada, and am old. It is the younger generations problem now. As the philosophy professors become increasingly irrelevant to society, all we need do is ask how irrelevant is what they say to my life?   


Friday, February 24, 2017

Free Will and Eating

Free will and eating are not necessarily incompatible even when they seem to be. For the most part, the amount we eat, when we get hungry, are beyond our normal control. It is only when we are trying to "lose weight" that how much we eat and when becomes an issue and we try to bring this instinct under our direct control that we experience this difficulty, long term. The regulation of eating is an instinct, always has been and likely always will be. It is outside of our control, outside of free will, and in that zone that we can only influence. There in lies the problem. And yet we may think we can control it, yet few with a weight issue can control it. Many people say we should be able to control it, but that is a fiction, a collective fiction.

Is there any doubt about the human's inability to control our intake of food?  Just look around at all the overweight people. I doubt that anyone wants to be overweight. They are eating beyond there needs, but do not have the ability to control their eating. This can occur by desiring a specific food, or enjoy the feeling that sugar, insulin, or something else brings, just as the alcoholic enjoys the feeling that alcohol brings, at least in the early days of drinking. There was something in our early days of overeating that we liked about overeating. We may no longer enjoy it the same way, or we do, but the weight is a problem. Many of us still enjoy the food, it may be our only enjoyment left, but we need to give up the food for health reasons. We may just enjoy food.  In fact, it may be our only enjoyment.

So we have arrived at this point in time, and need to understand that we have pull toward food as it does something for us physiologically that we like psychologically, that we want, and at the same time adds weight to us. So now what about that free will? we have one factor pulling us toward the food, and reason against. Instinct vs reason, which is going to win long term? This instinct lies outside of our free will zone, outside of our absolute control and only in the zone that we have influence. Our epigenetic switch has been flicked to eating to much. We need to learn to live with that.

For some of us, food is and was our only pleasure. Movement is just not comfortable, and we do not enjoy movement. The exercise fanatics think that it will become enjoyable, but that may happen to them but not to all. They may not get the pleasure from food that we do, they get pleasure from exercise, which I (we) do not. Is it that simple. Was the source of pleasure trained in, in our youth? I expect so.

So now we obese and overweight inclined people need to give up food as a source of pleasure, and get some exercise, and hopefully find a new source of pleasure within our control. Knowing that the rational mind is all we control, and we have an instinct to learn, perhaps we can utilize this as a source of pleasure. Our free will and that which we have absolute control over seam to be the same zones. Very small, and very specific. But not as big as many think, nor as sure of control. If we have no control, we can have no free will, for these two are directly related. Once we get beyond making the decision to move, we progress beyond the area that we have free will over, beyond the are that we have control over.

Three frogs are sitting on a log. One frog decides to jump off. How many frogs are left on the log? 3 Decision is not action. We have free will to the decision, not of the action of jumping. That depends on the body cooperating with our will to jump. With food we may not get that cooperation, the body instinct want what it wants. All we can do is take ourselves away from any source of food. But that too requires the cooperation of the body; if we are tired, have pains, or what ever, we may not get that cooperation.

Now we need to swim upstream, against the wrong "collective beliefs" of our culture, namely, that we should be able to use willpower to control our eating. If it were that simple. Eating is instinct/epigenetically driven. It is the collective belief that is wrong. What we can control is the opportunity to eat, not the desire. This must be learned and understood for recovery. Removal of one more mind parasite.

What do I know? no joy there. In the end we all just die anyway.   

Thursday, February 9, 2017

The cause of obesity & T2D

Peter describes the process:

Once the elevated glucose from insulin resistance kills off enough beta cells then insulin levels drop, glucose levels rise, HSL is disinhibited so FFAs rise. You might even get ketoacidosis. This is type 2 diabetes. ATGL might even take a break.      The first approach to correcting it is carbohydrate restriction, so dropping hyperinsulinaemia and minimising the vicious cycle. Doing something about the kilos of linoleic acid stored in an obese person's adipocytes is an altogether longer term project.

So the second part is to stay on the diet. Keep in mind that any diet in which we consume less calories than we burn will cause weight loss and fat to come out of the fat cells to make up the difference. Also not that for the obese, a large cut is easier than a small cut. So it is about attitude, emotional control, environment, stress, and motivation to stay on the diet. Cut carbs as much as is practical, adequate protein, and as little fat as is possible to make the food taste. To the body, a major cut is a high fat diet to the body, as the fat coming from the fat cells makes up the remainder.

Motivation is mostly emotional. Logic provides the direction and emotion flicks the switch that drives us forward. It is the thought that flicks the switch that makes the difference.

Atkins had everyone on broth, and that may be the low calorie-big volume that feeds the top of the stomach. I am just not sure.

Tuesday, February 7, 2017


After we develop the knowledge to live well, then we need the motivation to continue doing what we find difficult for the remainder of our lives, what ever that may be. Self management and recovery training is a group who works with addicted peoples to aid in recovery. The program as defined by SMART Recovery has its limitations, when dealing with food addicts mixed in with other addicts. We food addict like people have many different issues. Most other type of addicts do not accept food addicts, for they do not see food as a addictive substance, but as a simple behavior.

We are addicted to a behavior, as well as a few low dose chemicals, often those chemicals are produced inside the body from multiple food inputs. Opioid peptides are the digestion product of dairy, wheat, potatoes, gliadin proteins, and if we happen to have the enzyme to produce it. Serotonin is produced in the gut, and is displaced in with quantifies with sugar. These are the two typical methods of causing humans to "like" specific foods, and we either like it too much or are unable to produce the will power to not eat those products. Given the will power it takes to haul our obese selves around, it is not a shortage of will power issue.

The smart tools are fine, as far as they go. But those tools are not sufficient for the more severely addicted. We need more, and chemical addiction is only part of the addiction process: there is also the behavioral addiction, which is even stronger and requires different approaches. In the end, we always need to follow a thin diet, both quality and quantity. It is our thinking that gives us the ability to follow, and that is where society fails us.

The Smart algorithm needs a extension for food issues.        

Sunday, January 29, 2017

Obesity Epidemic

Hypothesis: obesity epidemic has a causal link to the rise in carbon dioxide level.

There is a parallel in the shape of the curve in the last fifty years roughly. Since 1960, the carbon dioxide level has been climbing. This is not the only cause, but only an environment change which we pre-1960 models were not born into, hence we did not adapt to in childhood. This reduced oxygen transfer may have reduced our energy level, and therefore our desire to be active. Food gives us a short term boost in energy and the first few ATP from sugar are easy to obtain oxygen free.

CPAP machines are often recommended for heavy people at night, and that helps many a great deal. This would drive more oxygen into those people. I was once in a weight wise group, and everyone except me was on a CPAP machine of some kind.

What kind of test could be devised to act as a proof of concept test? How about deep breathing exercise, on the hour and half hour, or as needed, about five or ten deep breaths, aka forced oxygenation?

Thursday, January 26, 2017

Yes, No, Well that depends

Yoni made a pronouncement, but it is only sometimes correct. I am operation under a hypothesis that there are multiple causes of overeating, and that mood is not one of the major driving factors; that depends on how we define mood. I define mood as a medium term temperament, that is day, days, perhaps weeks in length. It is the long term temperament of months, years, to life that is the problem. Occasional overeating is not the problem, occasional overeating creates overweight people, not obese people. But he is right that psychological, philosophical, emotional, cultural, physical, environmental, and especially addiction to food issues must be addressed before recovery from obesity issue can be overcome completely.

Is it a true addictive substance, or is it just behavior as obsessive compulsive behavior? Does it matter? 

But Yoni is wrong in that diet must be corrected in order to remove the self mediating effect of food in order that the underlying mind problem, the non physical drive to overeat can be exposed. Food addiction is a bitch of a problem, and if one happens to live in a situation where one has little control over the food available, food addiction may impossible to recover from in that environment. Food addiction is necessarily the first thing that must be beat down before recovery can occur.

Before food addiction recovery can occur, acceptance of food addiction must occur. If a human has the willpower to only eat small amounts of the addictive substance, it would not be addiction. Some of us are highly sensitive to odd things, wheat being a prime example. Some of us cannot handle any wheat, and but like the taste of wheat. It is in many prepared foods also. For those of us who cannot handle it, absence is the only logical choice.

Now what if our addiction is a physical problem like insulin overproduction?  Perhaps we need to live on no starch, no sugar diet? Yet we like, even crave, and want starches, may even require a few, which are ever present and economical? Now we have a real problem. Even worse when we have unresolved personality problems. Sleep, work, do something or eat: those are my choices. But I get tired to quickly, oh well, sleep. But I do not need to do anything, and do not want to do anything? That does not matter if I want to avoid eating. Rest, at home, will result in eating. Now what are those choice: sleep, work, do something or eat. 

Developing the skill to sit in front of food that we like, and not eat it, is not a skill I have. As I do not live alone, but with a french yettie, this is a problem. (yettie, after the polish cry "yets, yets") This is an environmental problem or the environment I inhabit. There is no point in talking about this problem further, there is just no cooperation coming. I do cook meals, but I cannot prevent more crap being bought and left out.   


Friday, January 20, 2017

Understanding weight loss failure

The problem is not the diet, but the inability to follow the damn diet. Hunger, cravings, desires, emotions, un-named pressures, all push us off the diet, food program, prescribed restrictions. Until we understand and treat these issues, obesity will remain long term.

For some of us, this started in childhood. It is a issue that we do not clearly know the cause, perhaps the cause is absence of emotional support, or absence of physical support, we were placed in a no win situation, and we ate to resolve the feelings, (high BG helps reducing feeling) or just to survive. This habit, behavior became "burned in" - epigenetically, and now we live with this problem.

When we read Jonice Webb, Running on Empty, it becomes apparent that this is likely the problem, but it is an unknown unknown that is driving our decisions. Now it is necessary to use a shotgun approach to identify the problem or rather the solution that works. Total reloading of the operating system. Reboot with a corrected program. But where are we to get the new "corrected" program from? Not from religion, not from the philosophers, not from the government, or psychologists? So where? Well, nobody has figured that one out yet, but many preach bits and pieces, and to every one preaching, there is much opposition, often more than are advocating any position. So the solution is reloading piecemeal, one belief, one emotional response at a time and we are soully responsible for our choice or decision.

But which unknown unknown? And we live in an environment which is beyond our control and then when the obvious solution does not depend on us? Now what? It is the unknown unknown that must be identified and relieved. Or does the obvious solution destroy all that we have built up to this point in our life? Or we need a change of environment. Or do we not have the required energy to implement and carry out the solution? Money always has the veto also. So there is no solution.


Wednesday, January 18, 2017

What Spirit

So what is the spirit of soul that the religious speak of? I just cannot identify what they speak of.

So if the body physically supports the physical mind, are the thought the soul? Or are the collective beliefs, motivations for action and all that other "software" running in the mind? But what about learned knowledge? and learned behaviors?

So does a rational person have a soul? Or is it just one more figment of the religious imagination, or something that the religious cannot define? More religious bullshit? 

Thursday, January 12, 2017

Learned Obsessive Compulsive Behaviors

So why do we overeat? Is the cause physical or mental? If it is mental, than it is not a diet or food issue, therefore diet or food is just not going to fix the problem? Any calorie reduced diet will take the weight off if we are able to follow it. So if we are unable to follow the diet, where do we turn to?

It strikes me that mental issues need mental solutions, and who can tell us how to think? Well the philosophy guys are of some help with emotion type problems, and the psychologists if is a common problem, but how to they figure out what the problem is? Well when we read Running on Empty, it is apparent the most of the world is just getting by. so can those just getting by really help when someone realizes they have a mild form of Obsessive Compulsive Behavior that cannot be called OCD or OCPD? What if we just "take the treatment"?

Obsession is a reoccurring thought like "I am hungry", and the compulsion is a vain try to find something to take away that obsession. Well no compulsion or consumption can remove an obsession. The treatment is first identify that hunger feeling as an mental obsession, and realize no food intake can remove that feeling. That feeling can only be displaced by other feelings. It is just an obsession. Call it an obsession. It has no value and can be ignored. No obsession was ever removed by compulsion.

Now consider an emotional cause, where eating is used to remove a stress. High sugar/high insulin is a condition that causes a relaxation, after many calories. We are mistaking stress for hunger; we also may be hungry as well. There is a desire to re-feed after stress that is natural, perhaps even necessary for the thin. Glycogen in short supply calls for replenishing for the thin. We need to separate these feelings, but until we can?

Well there is a book that describes the treatment for obsessive- compulsive treatment: Brain Lock by Schwartz, so may the schwartz be with you.  

Thursday, January 5, 2017

New Year, New Direction

For a while now I have been feeling in need of a change but I am unsure of what that change should be. I am bored, well not really bored, but no energy to do much, and no interest in doing much. Not really discontent, but not really motivated to do anything. I have lots I could do, but nothing I care about, or for that matter, nothing anyone else cares about much either. When I get sarcasm, I just stop. Oh well, she will just need to learn to live with unfinished projects.

So now I need a change, but the question is to what? The days get long sometimes when I do not have enough to do, yet do not want to do much. Such is retirement. I could change this blog into a rant or wail against selected "stupidities of man kind" or some such attention getting crier. There is no shortage of subjects: religion, environment, waste, ego spending, massive houses used as places to sleep while everybody works to pay for the house, money management, or the lack of such, dying jobs and career paths, shipping jobs offshore aka buying foreign goods, lack or economic choice of some products, politics, bad political decisions, bad decisions made for good reasons, decisions that make Alberta noncompetitive in the current market, but made for environmental reasons, bad faith decisions, stupid decisions to not support carbon capture efforts, even when some carbon capture is revenue generating, but not profitable enough to be self sustaining, and the list could go on.

I could dig out 20 to 40 year old slides and scan them, hang them on the web for all to see, but why?
I could make slides of most anything for the microscope and look at them, but why?
I could finish any number of started project, but she has not yet learned.
I could go to the garage and do something, but why?

One of those old philosophers, Epictetus in the Fragments is quoted as saying "never do anything without a reason" or something to that effect. "We should not lift a finger without reason," perhaps "without reason we should not lift a finger". I have no reason, beyond the need to do something. Is that sufficient reason? Perhaps it is.

There is a space between perception and analysis, a bigger space between analysis and decision, and a third space between decision and action, or so there should be according to some. This seems to be what many of the old masters of mediation suggest, and even the new masters, and that is also what a good few psychologists suggests. Perhaps I could pass my days in any of the many forms of meditation. But without any desire to....  

Will Trump become president? If he does, how will his presidency end? Natural term? resignation? impeachment? assassination? natural death or medical issue? Civil unrest? Civil War? Invasion of X or by Y? Nuclear war?... I will bet on impeachment and or medical issue. His ego would never let himself to admit into being wrong, and resigning. I doubt that he will make four years without some effort of relieving us of him, but the security will be tight.  He will infuriate the existing establishment and executive of Security Industry.  I could see him getting into serious difficulties and then fining a medical escape issue short of impeachment. Oh well, he will only likely upset NAFTA, softwood lumber, border security, free trade, auto industry, environment issues, drugs and health care, gyproc trade, beef, pork, food, housing, in Canada. It may be good for Canada also as we may need to start producing our own stuff in Canada in answer to the restrictions imposed.

Enough in the end we all just die anyway, just as the 110 billion who went before us.  


Monday, January 2, 2017

Is Overeating a "learned behavior"

Yes, well since we do it, it is a learned behavior. The question is more complex; was it learned as a result of direct teaching or was it self learned as a coping method for a bad situation or a inability to cope with some problem? Does that problem still exist?

So if my personality/attitude puts me into conflict with those around me, and I overeat to sooth myself, then I must learn to deal with those around me or I have no change of lasting recovery. So how does one learn to deal with people who are just wrong? An atheist living among the religious?

A grumpy wife?

Sunday, January 1, 2017

The Potato

The Potato has been a traditional food for many for years. I was raised on them. It is difficult to give up a traditional food entirely, especially when I have grown them for years.

There is the observation: two eggs and two bacon, and I can go all day. Two eggs and a fingerling, and I get hungry by noon. Two eggs and two bacon, and fingerling, and I am hungry by noon. That is just not reasonable. So what is the cause? Is it the same sort of issue as with wheat, so described by William Davis in Wheat Belly? Is it a protein breaking into a peptide, that is causing an allergic reaction and surge in adrenaline? Is it a leak gut problem? The solution is obvious; swear off potatoes for now and ever.

Monday, December 26, 2016

Attachment to Food and/or Eating

Peter Michealson, in Secret Attachments suggests that we have an attachment to food or eating that has gotten out of control. The cause is a concept of emotional injury or attachment to a negative emotion, fear of abandonment, resentment, ego or some other such issue. We may be using eating as a defense, but ultimately it is and attachment to a delusion or emotion locked into our psyche. Or we could like food a bit to much, another form of attachment. We need to let go of the attachment either way.

Buddha, back in his day said that all our suffering is some form of attachment to delusions, our thoughts, concepts, ideas, fears, graspings, expectations, hopes, dreams, and opposites, are all forms of delusions. In other words it is our attachments to the things that drive our lives in the direction we want to go that cause the problem, So if we are not attached to where we go or what happens, we can be free of all suffering. Well, if we do not care, it does not matter. Yes. So being ready to let go of our attachments if that attachment is what freedom of suffering is all about. It is the attachment that is common to all the issues, so if we let go of the attachment, then we are free.

All property, shelter and the like was owned by the community of monks, and they then provided housing, shelter, food, close, etc to the monks. Monks supported the community, begged for the community, and worked for the community. OK. They owned nothing, had nothing, and were free but cared for by the community. Some had jobs within the community: it needed a treasurer, builders, gardeners, beekeepers, etc,

 It is specifically letting go of attachment that the Buddhist promote, regardless of what the attachment is aimed at. So could letting go of the desire for food and/or eating be part of the solution? sounds like it should work, but how does one let go of a attachment? That is the question.      

Friday, December 23, 2016

Fictitious Concept of Self Control

Fictitious Concept of Self Control

Not all humans have anything like self control. That statement files in the face of psychologists, government, doctors with there non-compliant concept. In fact, I can see little evidence that more than a few have "self-control" No one wants to be fat, yet 2/3 of the population is. All anyone needs to do to not be fat is to not eat as much. We see drug dependency, alcoholics, smokers, all of which would not be if they had "self-control" so I suggest that self control is a delusion, a concept we have but is not a real thing, much like gods. So if we are bowing at the alter of self control, and not getting anywhere, what is the logical next step? Stop believing in self control. It does not really exist.

That does not say we should stop trying. Agrippina, or was it Socrates, the old Greek said resist and persist are the two great virtues, or something to that effect. He said those were optional but desired characteristics. I use the word optional for some characteristics unlike duty, following traditions, loyalty to your city state, good moral behavior were just expected, and the transgressors were just not tolerated. They either left to take up residence elsewhere, to travel or were eliminated by other methods, sold into slavery, exiled, exterminated. There is no suggestion that people could force change on themselves, just that they should try.

That is where modern thoughts break down. It is assumed or preached by those in authority that people can change if they want it bad enough, yet there is not what the evidence says. Just look at the fat, smoking, drinking, drugging, lying, cheating, tax evasion, people abusing,  and how many are left as honorable humans? None, or close to that number. So trying to acheive is all we are capable of, achievement itself is more luck that anything.   

There are many of us who just cannot follow a diet when food is available. It is a human problem, and only those who have no attraction to food or make extreme efforts are being successful. Obesity is therefore a cultural/societal problem, not a individual problem. That is what the average human reaction is telling us.     

Wednesday, December 21, 2016


What are cravings? These are attachments to feelings, desires, emotions, desires for specific foods, flavors. The strength of the attachment or desire is the problem. The only found solution is to let go of the attachment. So what help is that and how is that achieved?

Science, in the form of psychologists, remain quiet on that. It is the craving that cause me much problems.

So those of us with strong desires for food, for comfort, for some other emotion that food acts as a substitute for have a problem, which the medical professionals have no clear answer for. Our best guess it is cause in childhood, and it is some attachment to something that make us feel better. The marketing psychologists know how to drive the attachment by keeping food/food advertising in our faces constantly. But there is no know relief, other that isolation in an active enjoyable environment, where food is not available. The problem  is, one cannot live for extended periods in such an environment. There is no solution. that is what it come down too. Fuck It.    

Wednesday, December 14, 2016

which way do you wobble?

Which way do you wobble? We all wobble, and we cannot run true when we grew up in a wobbling society, culture, learned to wobble from eccentrics, just to survive. So where is the center to correct for eccentricities, and that is true to correct for wobbles, and then there are questions of speed and balance.

The point is that nobody knows for sure. When it comes to overeating there are many hypotheses, and nobody knows what is right and what is not. It is obvious that it is not a single problem, for then those who have fixed the problem would have created a pattern that works for others. There are many patterns and none of them work universally. Many of those who were obsessive about eating have switched to measurement obsession, or exercise obsession, or running obsession, which will work until age or injury set in. So is changing obsession a cure?

We overeaters have a big wobble toward eating and usually away from exercise. The issue with exercise it requires time, and we need to take something else out of our lives. That is but one of the problems. Doing something that we do not enjoy makes it drudgery. It is like an athlete learning more calculus, doing calculus exercises just to stay fresh. Just does not happen for long.

So do we need to produce an anti-eating wobble to counter balance this problem. Everyone is wobbling differently so what is true?