Thursday, September 18, 2014

Trained to Overeat?

Who does one train out something that is trained in? I was trained to overeat. It turns out, not so easily to undo that training. Trained in become habits, residing in the unconscious part of the brain/mind. So now we need to consciously lay down a new track, and make sure we never venture down that old track again. Not so easy to avoid that old track of convenience, of least resistance.

One of the best methods is to take on something like low carb, Atkins, Paleo, 19th Century, Primal, that is substantially different that the way one was eating. Now the ways is clearly different. Three meals a day, nothing in between, one day at a time (301). But what if after the initial weight loss, the weight starts to creep back? Now what? Meal size is the issue, and a continual craving. No body has the answer for that one.

Those who know most about cravings say it should go away if you do not eat any of these list of foods of addiction like, but it does not, has not. Medical industry does not have an answer, psychology does not have an answer, beyond "that is a physical issue". Everybody is pointing figures. The ancients do have answers to philosophical and psychological problem but not to unrelenting craving, or this aspect of the problem. 

So what is the solution? Woo suggests a shot of vinegar after a meal, but the best I can do is a pickle.  it does not help that I can see.

The ancients  suggest prayer, but their notion of prayer does not require a belief system. It is prayer, petitioning for what is within out power, like the letting go of the desire for food. That sets out mind up for the letting go of the desire for food. This sounds like self talk of the good kind.

Enough.

Tuesday, September 16, 2014

Purpose of life 2

It is all empty and meaningless. I know nothing. What a freeing place to be. Now I can rebuild myself in present time, one layer at a time, like the way I took myself apart. At the center is a void. Nothing. Empty. Meaningless. I guess I will blow up a balloon and get started. Later I will let the air out, and pull the balloon out, and void should remain inside a new crust of me as before.

The first layer will be tranquility. All life is empty and meaningless to nature, to the world that exists. Material things cannot understand meaning or purpose, they just are physical things; they do not care. Only humans ( or other rational beings) can divine up concepts like meaning and purpose. Nature has given us desire to eat and copulate, and the ability to produce a purpose concept to motivate ourselves in some direction, but nature did not give us purpose. All nature gave us was desire, and we create purpose to direct that desire. There is the opportunity.  To create a belief system that "must" be followed, and give a bit of money to me and/or follow me blindly, and you will be fine. Sounds like all religions except perhaps buddhism and the philosophies.  They do the pitch we will provide concepts and you can choose the right ones if you can.

Socrates. Know yourself. WTF does that really mean? All is empty and meaningless? We, as adults, can craft ourselves to be what ever we want to be? So the second layer must be purpose, or should it be virtue, so that we have something to test against, and can achieve satisfaction and stoic joy. Temperance, courage, justice, perseverance, wisdom are early layers, as is a special layer of rigorous honesty. Compassion for others, while and the same time detachment from the events about me because it is all empty and meaningless anyway save the purpose we humans put on something. We create our own purpose, so we do, us humans. No religion has a grip at this point. God is not dead; he never existed.  

We can create our own priority lists: life, offspring, friends, people, community, city, province, region, nation, world, no piss on the world - is is screwed until all realize that it is all empty and meaningless, and start to work together for a common purpose of survival and development for all. Those who choose to sit on there asses can starve in the dark. It is all empty and meaningless anyway. Yes. Purpose can be created and worked for to achieve. It is all based on faith and belief in a system based on logic, yet how would one sell this. The answer is obvious: start a religion. My way or the highway.

We humans impose purpose where none exists. It provides direction; a reason to get up in the morning. A Birdge Over the River Kwai sort of concept. So what is next in the rebuilding of self? Food, shelter, clothing, shelter, or purpose, duty, responsibility, persistence, rigorous honesty, family, community, or my specific purpose, what ever that may be?

A study of time shows that only the present is of importance. Past is history and can be forgotten,  the future is "but a dream", and then there is never-never, the fourth phase of time, which we live in so much of the time, sitting in front of TV, engrossed in fiction reading. Of course I read nutrition stuff and, as it turns out, much of that is fiction. Oh well, that is the past.

Enough.

Sunday, September 14, 2014

Purpose of Life

So what is the purpose of life? It is only to reproduce and grow more humans until we overpopulate this limited sphere and start suffering and dieing off due to shortages of energy, food, omega 3 oil, or other resource? Or will we turn more violent and kill each other off to get "our share" of needed resources?

I have talked about this before at  http://oathursdaynightgroup.blogspot.ca/2013/04/the-purpose-of-life.html and http://oathursdaynightgroup.blogspot.ca/2012/07/what-is-our-purpose.html.

All this assumes there is purpose, and that we humans can produce a concept of purpose. But there is a greater question, does nature have a purpose for humanity? Or is it all meaningless development, growth, without a purpose. Any concept of god would suggest that there is purpose, but we know that god is a humanization of nature, not a real supernatural or natural being, in short a human construct, likely to explain that which we could not. This is not unlike "She who must be obeyed" philosophy. But if there is not a "god", who or what would creates a purpose? It is all just a rolling cylinder, with direction but without it's own source of energy, no plan, no purpose? Who can know where it will end up.

Human development in then meaningless, but we humans can make the best of it anyway. We can be motivated into what ever we fancy is our ultimate end game. To create, to reproduce, to develop, and to support those activities. Or we call all just fight, kill each other. We could, if we chose, to evolve into a society where we all work together for the common good, where force will not be used to compel adherence to a political or philosophical belief system. The StarTreck prime directive could be held as one of our esteemed laws, and reason rules the behavior of people. Yah Sure, not likely.

We are all driven by our desires. Can we learn to direct these desires? The desires exist strongly in   many of us; for too much food; gluttony, greed, and similar terms can be applied. But is it too much desire, lack of proper directions for desire, or are we just using an available resource to satisfy an unresolved desire. Is that why there is so much overlap in excesses, alcohol, food, sex, drug, gambling, just an unfulfilled desire that would be better directed elsewhere?

Enough Eh?


Thursday, September 11, 2014

Choice

If I do not do as I always have done, then what do I do? Habit eh. Habit is trained in behaviors. That is not to say that the training was deliberate, or intended. That is not saying what we learned was what was the intended lesson, if indeed there was even one. In life there are many unknowns, and this is one more. Looking back on life to see where and when I learned to overeat has been interesting. I did not know until recently. There is a picture of me, preschool, as a normal sized kid, and my grade one school picture as a porker. In grades two and three, I was pouring on the pounds. Going to school was a big stress for me, and the concept of "support" was just not there. Oh well, I survived. We only talk to the survivors. I recall a few kids who just stopped coming to school, and were never talked about again. I now assume that these were suicides, but I do not know.

That was in the first years of school amalgamation, where the local schools were closed, and we were bussed in to a central location, into big classes, perhaps 35-39 per classroom, two classes per grade,  as I recall. There was considerably more students than there were people in the town. One hour buss rides were common, a few longer.

There was winter and spring. Winter, the buses did not / could not run some days due to snow storms and/or extreme cold. Then the melt came in the spring; water, mud, creeks, and no way to get through. I remember the County building the last two miles of road past the log house we lived in when I was in high school. Oh well. But I digress.

There is one more reason we overeat: habit. This joins the list: habit, willful overeating, endogenous chemical physical causes, environment and temptation, maladaptive emotional behaviors, addiction to exogenous chemicals and the like.

Now how does one overcome habit that is ingrained into the unconscious? First, we must recognize it as habit. Two eggs for breakfast, why, because that is what I have always had. Habit. Lack of self control, because I want, needy pig, habit. I do have a choice, but what will I become if I do not do as I always have done? Thin perhaps.













Thursday, August 21, 2014

Speed of digestion/absorption

The speed of digestion and absorption comes into hunger, Cooked food digest quicker. So do ground foods. Perhaps even well chewed foods. Does this impact weight? Does this also effect the time to satiation? You bet. The solution? Metered meal. Go away. Work at something we enjoy and are engrossed in until it is time for something else. Driven by the clock and a continuous stream of activity or functions, not involving food. 

Such is the life of the physical caused craving person.

Thursday, August 14, 2014

Relationship between Palatability, Satiation and Cravings

It seams that for some people, there is a relationship between the palatability of foods, the satiation provided and cravings or irrational or unwanted desire for foods.  I think I have spoken of this before, but, OH well, one more time.

Now the tabular way I see this relationship is:


Palatablity
Satiation
Cravings or desires
Hyper Palatablity
Very low, More please
More please
High Palatablity
Low, more
Could eat
Medium Palatablity
enough
enough
Low Palatablity
Enough already
No Thanks
Un Palatablity
No thanks
No way


 So what does all this mean? Well it does suggests that one should stay away from high and hyper palatable foods. It also suggest that anything that we do where food is available will raise cravings. This we know.

It also suggest that being a foodie is not good for the weight, nor is associating in any way with foodies. They are dangerous to my health.

Who was the old Greek, Epicurus perhaps but no, that talked about a nation destroyed with too much good food, that gave rise to Spartism. Barley porridge, with a an few weed from the ditch (herbs, spices, vegetables), occasionally a dead fish or dead animal on feast days, or a bit of cheese was a feast (the excretions of one animal fermented in the gut of another dead animal). Hunger was and is the best appetizer. 

Or is this all just hedonistic adaptation?
































Tuesday, August 12, 2014

The Key revisited with cravings

There are five groups of reasons that cause overeating:


  1. willful overeating, as in Newfie,   I wants________.
  2. cravings - started with physical causes
  3. Cravings - started with environment and temptations
  4. CRAvings - made worse by maladaptive behavior
  5. CRAVINGS - Started and continued with - food addiction
Hypothesis: Cravings can be moderated with placebos (fact); therefore they can be moderated by cognitive processes and removal of precursors and chemicals from the food we consume.

Monday, August 11, 2014

Cravings research yeilds

It seems we have three "circuits" involved. Dopamine, serotonin, end-opioid. Pre-components, Production, receptors, re-uptake. And there is where agreement ends. Something is not quite right, and cravings are the default occurrence.

Well, also the placebo effect also utilizes these same three circuits; we naturally make and our mind, body emotions all effect the amount we produce.

Seems that some foods disrupt equilibrium, wheat and dairy fats by providing exopioids peptides, sugar by flushing the  serotonin from the gut to blood and hence to brain, and any anticipation screws with dopamine. Stress or emotional issue make thing more confusing by also using the same circuits. No shit, bat man. It is so interrelated, it might as well be the Yokums or the Weises, to which, I can say, are in my ancestral bush (more diverse than a tree).

So if we eat anything we like, (high palatable),  desire, or look forward too, we may be causing it through the placebo effect, or we could be ingesting the building blocks to push production of one hormone up or down, turning a sensor or receptor on or off, or speeding or slowing uptake. It will be a while before anyone gets a handle on this stuff.

I guess the only think is to keep reading.

Tuesday, August 5, 2014

More on Cravings Research.

There is much confusion about cravings, it is time to do some reading and clipping.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/food-craving.htm   says  most revolve around the hedonic, or pleasurable, aspects of dining [source: Hill] so off I go to Hill.
Hill, Andrew J. "The psychology of food craving.

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FPNS%2FPNS66_02%2FS0029665107005502a.pdf

Hill does not accept food addiction. OK. Hill goes on to suggest that cravings are cognitive / emotional, not physical / chemical. He suggests that it is craving mainly are for highly palatable foods. Boredom and stress make cravings worse. OK.

Does this mean that cravings would reduce if I only ate palatable food. We would need a palatablity scale, un, low, medium, high, hyper. So no high or hyper palatable foods. Is satiation related to palatablity in an inverse fashion? No, enough, enough, more, please more, for a direct inverse related satiety scale. So if cravings are hedonic, if I only east low and medium palatable food I will not crave or crave less? Is that what you are suggesting, Hill?  I will need to test that a bit before I swallow that. It could be all shit.

Experts believe that cravings occur for a variety of reasons. They attribute them to evolution, psychological factors such as stress and unhappiness, and  -  sometimes  -  a genuine need for certain foods.

from source noted below
'It's crucial to remember that a food craving is not simply hunger,' says Professor Andrew Hill, Head of the Academic Unit of Psychiatry and Behavioural Sciences at Leeds University.
Hunger is the body's way of making sure it is provided with energy, in the form of nutrients from food. When the stomach is empty, it releases the hormone ghrelin, which communicates with the brain's command centre, the hypothalamus. This creates the feeling of hunger and is how we know when to eat.
Satiation is signalled by the release of the hormones leptin by fat cells, and insulin by the pancreas, in response to increased blood sugar.
Cravings, however, are much more complex.
'Those who are starving will eat literally anything  -  even foods they do not enjoy  -  to stay alive,' says psychologist Dr Leigh Gibson, Reader in Biopsychology at Roehampton University.
'Cravings, on the other hand, are an overwhelming sensation of desire for a certain food. There are a number of chemicals in the brain that are associated with this.
'First, there is dopamine, a brain chemical that is involved in learning and concentration. When we see or experience something new, dopamine is released in the brain.
'This works in tandem with other brain chemicals called opioids, which give us feelings of enjoyment and pleasure. The combination of these two factors mean that the brain associates certain activities with pleasure, and it teaches us to do them again and again.
'From an evolutionary point of view, junk food cravings are linked to prehistoric times when the brain's opioids and dopamine reacted to the benefit of high-calorie food as a survival mechanism.
'We are programmed to enjoy eating fatty and sugary substances, and our brains tell us to seek them out.
'Today, we still have the same chemical reactions to these so-called hyper-palatable foods, causing an unignorable desire  -  despite there being less of a nutritional need for them.' 

Also note that when insulin is high, we cannot see leptin. Lustig says it is insulin molecule blocks the leptin receptor. 
Also note that sugar and fat we needed to survive better long term. Those who ate sugar and fat stored a bit more energy for the lean time. Those of us that fatten easily and have those cravings had a better chance of survival... but not in time of plenty. We just crave and get fat, fast or eat only low palatability foods for a while, and the excess should go away, as long as we can avoid the cravings.

more from above


The body produces a hormone called cortisol in response to stress,' explains Dr Gibson.
'Its primary functions are to increase sugar in the blood to be used up as energy by the body's cells, suppress the immune system and aid in fat, protein and carbohydrate metabolism. It also blocks the release of leptin and insulin, increasing hunger.
'This is why studies have shown that when we're stressed, we're more likely drawn towards high-energy foods, such as cakes and sweets. Stress in response to danger used to mean energy was burned up. Stress down to today's lifestyle may have the same effect, though these days we are less likely to actually burn off the calories.'
Then there are the psychological components to cravings.
'Mood is unquestionably a potent context  -  especially negative mood,' says Prof Hill.
'We crave reward foods. The pattern for this is partially set in childhood when parents give us sweet food to show love or reward.'
Anna Raymond, of the British Dietetic Association, agrees.
'Cravings are a psychological need for high-fat and high-sugar foods which taste pleasant  -  but which should, of course, form only a small part of our daily intake.'
Dr Gibson points out that sweet food can actively alleviate pain by releasing opioids, thus excusing us for giving sweets to a hurt child. Researchers at the University of Michigan found that chocolate causes the brain to release these euphoria-inducing chemicals.
Unsurprisingly, more than 50 per cent of reported cravings are for chocolate and most others are for highly palatable foods such as sweets or biscuits.
'Chocolate melts at body temperature which gives a pleasant sensation, and fat and sugar further increase the sensory appeal,' says Prof Hill.
Gender can influence the nature of cravings. According to Prof Hill, studies show that women predominantly crave sweet, fatty and energy-dense food and men have more savoury cravings, although it is not yet understood why. 

So what does all this mean? We have a number of potential cause of cravings:
  • Cognitive 
  • Physical
  • Environmental
  • Maladaptive or emotional, stress
  • food addiction - food chemical induce
And after the craving is a space, where it should be forced through the cognitive processes before we react to any craving.  
In the words of Victor Frankl: "between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our own personal response and in that response lies our growth and freedom."  




Thursday, July 31, 2014

cravings

Cravings the bane of any dieter. These are the problem. What causes them? Are these carvings just irrational desires stimulated by willful thinking, physical processes, environmental situations, maladaptive behaviors in response to some emotion, or food addiction like stimulus?

Any ideas?

Wednesday, July 23, 2014

Monday, July 21, 2014

Cabbage Leaves, another green

“Nothing is enough for the man to whom enough is too little.” —Epicurus

This is similar to AA's "one drink is to many and a 1000 is not enough"

One of the common problems of overeating is alining our will with our needs. It is desire that drives much overeating, desire for more, desire for tasty food, the desire to try some tasty piece of non food.
Learning to control our desire and our wants, and limit them to our needs is a big issue in weight loss.

W5 ran a show that showed this issue very well. http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?binId=1.811589




Carbohydrate intolerance, a phrase coined, I believe, by Phil Maffetone, is an apt descriptor of one of the physical problems. This is a insulin/adrenaline/dopamine/serotonin  issue that creates a urge to eat when we overeat on carbohydrates. Phil talks about it here. He provides a method of determining how much carbohydrates are required to provide the effect here.

So how sensitive to carbohydrates am I? Well if I eat only greens, I still crave often. So if it is insulin, proteins can also produce insulin. Protein are digested into peptides, and some peptides are processed further in the liver through glyconeogenesis into glucose. So some meats, pork, especially any processed meats, even sausages, produce insulin. Too much beef or bison, and I am into a craving situation. That is what I live with. Craving is almost impossible to avoid, so how does one live?

This suggests recovery should include at least three separate study areas:
1. Desire adjustment, to moderate our desires. This may be separate or part of belief change, our expectations, our will and wants. Recovery dose not include eating what we want to eat, but rather eating and only wanting what little we should eat.
2. Expanded food and physiological need understanding including concepts like carbohydrate intolerance, food addiction, maladaptive eating, correcting environmental driven cueing, priming, bating and temptation, and understanding the physical food drive issues.
3.  Correction of our own thinking to get rid of self bating, and similar cognitive dissonance with recovery.

But what do I know? 




Saturday, July 19, 2014

Expansion of the Lettuce effect

In an earlier post I proposed four groups of the causes of overeating as follow:

Physical Problem: genetic or unknown physical,  hyperinsulinemia or insulin resistance, thyroid issues, adrenalin issues, some thing that produces excess hunger or appetite. These require some sort of physical intervention or extended mental effort to overcome what is a physical problem being overcome by mental/ behavioral effort.

Environmental: Near normal people in food rich environment, where there is continuous temptation. These people must learn to adapt to their environment, or change their environment to recover.

Maladaptive: May be emotional eating, compulsive eating, obsession driven, stress, boredom, lonely, tired, whatever. We need to learn real coping methods for situations, escape from that situation, recognizing there is no real solution for the situation, (learn acceptance of bullshit produced by others), whatever. Recovery requires a major change in our belief structure, and attitude change or other psychic adjustment. This could also include the attitude issue, wanting to eat. Desires must be adjusted to match our needs.

Addicts and addiction like issues: There are chemicals within the food that cause a addiction like behavior, craving, desire, and withdrawal. This addiction may be behavioral in addition or instead of chemical. Addiction like behavior may also be a food triggering a desire to eat, not specifically the trigger food. Potatoes seem to triggering a craving for more food, likely through insulin overshot, but not specifically potatoes, in my case. Is that physical, or addiction substitution?

Now the reason I bring this up is obesity is the least understood and most common modern condition brought about by development. It need understanding of the overall problem, not just parts. That has been the problem so far in findings a solution. It is not diet, not the cause of overeating, not hyperpalatable refined carbohydrates, but a combination of all things that lead to the problem.

Currently I am reading Food and Addiction (Brownell and Gold). It clearly shows much understanding in many areas but a clear lack of understanding in what is necessary for recovery.
It is not one problem but at least four groups of problems, that I am dealing with, and much misinformation and shotgun solutions to the wrong problems. At the same time, all these issues are so interrelated that it become difficult to separate them out.

I have no food, nutritional, psychological, philosophical, medical, or other related credentials; but then neither do many living with these overeating issues. Some of us seem to recover. Can we produce enough logic to rationally lead ourselves out of the quagmire that we find ourselves in?

Rumination on the causes overeating

The four groups of causes of overeating, Physical, environmental, maladaptive, or addiction, are useful to understand an event. Yesterday, I ate new potatoes from the garden, perhaps 200 grams. Fresh, boiled, little red, robbed from the hills. My god, they tasted good. That should have been the first sign. All evening I craved. This I believe is the physical cause of overeating, likely a insulin short in to my naturally anxiousness body, or is it an adrenalin shot, I do not know. Either way, I have a choice: quit eating potatoes - or - keep on experiencing these eating rushes. So which is it going to be, go against my heritage, and a food that grows well here, or longer life? It should be a simple choice.

But is it only physical caused. I ate a potato. That is food induced change, so it might be grouped as food addiction cause, but the craving was not for more potatoes, it was for food in general. I did not have any "high fat" food available, but I guess I could have made a salad with a manufactured oil dressing. Oh well, it is morning of a new day, the cravings are gone, slept off, I guess. 

Friday, July 4, 2014

Is it too much adrenaline? or to little endorphins? or the sensors?

http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/111609p38.shtml

Which come first: obesity or high adrenaline/cortisol?

http://www.adrenalineaddicts.org/docs/4.pdf

Is it over production, or just production of unnecessary, which results in refeeding?

Eating carbohydrates, food in general produces endorphins which, through sensor cells regulate our eating. Which is my issue? To much adrenaline? Too few endorphins? Or a problem seeing the endorphins? As Steve Parker has suggested, D2 sensor issue.

Caffeine, sugar and alcohol drive endorphins up, but adaption makes us require more to have the same effect.

I do not know, and if anyone knows, they are not telling.   

Thursday, July 3, 2014

Pole of public opinion

In reading old Roman philosophy, there are warning that seeking pleasure from food, eating leads to ruin (which rune I am not sure) due to soft living. Is that part of today's obesity problem? Is it the pleasure seeking that is one of the roots of the problem?

Ideally food is just energy, required by the body. Epecurious noted that hunger is the best sauce, that even barley porridge tastes wonderful after a fast.

How many time have I heard " I don't want that ___________ for lunch." Perhaps hunger would change attitudes?