Saturday, May 30, 2015

Food Addiction and Lack of Satiety

Warning: Speculation

Is food addiction and lack of satiety different language for the same effect?

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2015/05/vanessa-freed-of-the-appetite-stimulating-effects-of-wheat-and-grains/

In the food addiction world the big three are sugars, grains (processed carbohydrates) and dairy products. The problems seems to be to be centered on the foods. The mechanism of the problem is speculation. Is it digestion into opioid peptides? Is it yeast or bacteria digestion producing or releasing the peptides? Is it all insulin sensitivity issues? Is it a pick any one, and you have equal chance of being right? Is it all psychological or all physical? Does anyone have a proved answer? Is the only answer abstinence of all these tasty foods, especially dairy?

The more "information" I look at, the less I know. By know, I mean as sure as a human can know anything. There is agreement that all these schemes are possible, and any can be the real problem, among others. Perhaps it is just I like food to much.

a chess move?



Thursday, May 28, 2015

Living in a Psychologically Discontent State

Living in a psychologically discontent state has become a way of life for me. I am just discontent, so what is there to do about it all? This state of discontent seems to come and go, an attitude, beyond my desire, but I can control it sort of, not directly but by taking myself away. Perhaps I need to give my self a good talking to.

This shows what a drilled cast-in-place belled pile looks like. This one supported a sign, and was removed in redevelopment. It was originally placed into high plastic stiff clay; the cast shows so clearly the teeth marks of the belling tool, and even the center point.

To get back off the tangent....
 
Marcus Aurelius and many others state that we need a guiding purpose in life, beyond day to day life. We need a reason to get out of bed, to proceed through the day with a sense of urgency toward our purpose, going with the flow of rational activity to feed a flourishing life. We can learn something useful and pass that along to the younger generations, or just pass on that which we know, if someone wants that knowledge. After our purpose, we need to remove the distress from our souls, our psychic self, and then we are ready to move forward. Dump delusions and go forward. Delusions come in many forms, and after we dump our supernatural god, we are still left with a duty to live up to virtue, perhaps even greater than when listening to a god of biblical nature, for the biblical god is a abusive, killing, vengeful, brute. After we recognize that we need to live virtuously, the next order of business is to establish what virtues are, and which virtues to live by.

The greatest wrongs are committed out of fulfilling a unhealthy desire. That is doing something that is wrong and against nature, our nature, others, ourselves, or our purpose, or the cooperation of humans. It is not wrong to resist the pushing of others to do wrongs. It they keep on pushing, perhaps it it time to say good bye to them and leave, to never go around them again. There is no god with supernatural powers, and people who push that concept are to be avoided, or at least not give the opportunity to push their delusions. Those who push bad eating concepts should be avoided. Yet I need to do things to keep busy for two long stretches each day, possible three stretches. It is easier to do something with people, but if there is no one around, it must be solely my motivations. Onto the purpose... what ever that might be.

Ultimately, I have run out of purpose. The dog and I could go for a walk if he would like. . . Dune that.  Moving on.

The Cardinal virtues, as exposed by the stoics vary, depending on which translation we look at.
Fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence, but these imply judgement based on wisdom, knowledge, global plan, self control, impulse control, but it is lacking the compassion component. (III 9 2) Absence of hurry in judgement, a feeling of kinship toward other human beings, and obedient consent to the gods. (God to Marcus was nature, so willing acceptance of what happens). In another version, though fullness, and affection for other people, and a submission to the divine. God may also be considered to be reason, as our directing portion is a chip of the divine ability to reason. So compassion should also be in the mix.  Note that this god is nature and is not part of the god delusion, but an alternate name that is compatible with stoic belief and Roman Law at the time for heresy. Fate or the more positive name, providence, has always been accepted as the outcome of natures action, and by then is historical fact and into past time, and therefore must be accepted.

Courage is often sighted, but that comes as part of fortitude and persistence. Other places it is resist unhealthy desires and persist in the virtues. It seems that part is our ability to make sound decisions, control our desires and impulses toward motion. Type A personalities are out in the absence of hurry in judgements. It is all about doing what is right for the right reasons, and knowing those reasons in the conscious mind, not just going with the flow of the unconscious mind. This is the basis of stoic thought, from adequate impression, judgement control of our beliefs, through prudent desire exercising, and impulse control by diversion, understanding that passions are from errors in beliefs and wrong delusion of how things should be.

But, but, that is a dense summary of stoic thought. This all is remarkably similar to Buddhism's eight fold path; Right: knowledge, intentions, thoughts, speech, actions, mindfulness, effort, concentration, in ultimate behavior. Practicing removes suffering by elimination of delusions, desires, aversions, and allows us to be be free to live rightly.

Enough.  

Wednesday, May 27, 2015

psychologically content and physically unsatisfied

It seems to me that the state that I must learn to live in is psychologically content and physically unsatisfied. It is reaching this state and staying in it that is difficult. For the last bit I have been living in a physically satisfied state, and gaining weight. LCHF help, but it is not enough, and the carb cravings are severe.

There is no doubt in my mind that the cravings have some physical cause. I do not know what.

So is there something that kills appetite dead? Vinegar. But can I bring myself to use a vinegar as a mouth wash after meals?

Saturday, May 23, 2015

Food Addiction- Bacteria or yeast

http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/05/who-needs-poppies-ordinary-yeast-can-now-produce-opioids/

http://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/news/modified-yeasts-could-be-used-to-produce-alkaloid-drugs/20068576.article

Wheat Belly Dr Davis suggests it is bacteria that produces opioid, or was it splits our the peptide components from the gladin peptide. Or is it yeasts that produces those opioid that we like directly from the sugar. Is that the root cause of sugar addiction? How low do we (I) need to go is sugar to get rid of the cravings?


Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Last on fasting

Fasting is for those who want it. Not for me, beyond missing the odd meal for other reasons.

Saturday, May 16, 2015

intermittent fasting

To make intermittent fasting work, one would need willpower to overcome nature, hunger, and absence of cravings. Hunger, for the first two days may be a problem, especially where food is available and offered. Also, without support, it becomes a singular event, making it even more difficult. With "religious" fasting, is a social event, and that may make it easier.

There are those to who like Fung claim some our experiences are not real. https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fasting-myths-part-5/
  • Fasting will overwhelm you with hunger
  • Fasting causes overeating when you resume feeding
Although there may be something to all these benefits of fasting, the doing of it for some of us is not easy, and may not be possible for the human animal.

enough

Thursday, May 14, 2015

Training to fast

Life can be destroyed by too much as well as too little, to paraphrase Epictetus.


day 1 - 1/3 cup oats AM, a bit of hunger, evening burger, spinach salad.
day 2 lunch spinach salad, eggs, not much hunger, evening burger, spinach salad
day 3 late lunch spinach salad, evening burger, spinach salad plus 2 bananas

 day 4 light hunger after noon, 2.30 coconut oil in tea, Blood Glucose at 2.30 PM, fasted 19 hr, 5.0 (80) light hunger, in a could eat to light hunger stage
Supper was out of hand, 2 burgers, spinach, vegs, and then I go into the wife's fruits and cheese.
The hunger would not go away. Satiation never occurs; but it took a lot to where I could stop eating. Once a day is too long of gap.

It is spinach season here, and I have a big patch. Asparagus will be next to come into season. Just a taste today, possible, of asparagus.

I think that the first day, spinach(greens) at lunch with a bit of protein and a evening meal is as low as I can go for now.  Training may take longer at each level.

Note to self:

The Prime Directive applies. The Prime Directive prohibits me from interfering, commenting on, criticizing, condemning the internal actions and beliefs of alien populations, including there foods and eating behaviors. They may believe and do what ever they like, regardless the probability of it's truth or fact.

There have been some that have struggled with there weight, even in Epictetus time. Musonius Rufus, (Epictetus teacher), in several of his surviving lectures, talks about the overeating that was common, and that we needed to watch out for that in our lives. Overeating is a human characteristic in time of excess. We certainly are in one now, in areas where foods are produced. 


PS..... I think Fung should stop using the word cured and start with "in remission".
Clearwater near source


Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Do we need to train ourselves to fast?

http://relievemypain.blogspot.ca/2015/05/im-low-carb-but-cant-fast-need.html

My own difficulties might also be improved with fasting according to Fung. So my current question is do many of us need to train ourselves to fast before we become comfortable to do it?

Wells Gray homestead
Bye the way, those are fiddle head ferns past there best by date. The whole fen is just covered with them, from the spring (foreground) to the old cabin. Lovely spot.

Monday, May 11, 2015

Jason Fung Series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpllomiDMX0

Fasting lowers plasma insulin and increases norepinephrine.  
Is that not part of fenphen?

It is likely the high norepinephrine that makes fasting easier to stick to than a reduction diet of say -500 calories. I have always known that for me a deep cut is easier than a shallow cut.

So how much food can one eat and maintain high norepinephrine?

Greens, oil and vinegar with a shake of psyllium for lunch? add 2 eggs.
Greens, oil and vinegar with a shake of psyllium for evening meal, add 100 gm or so of burger.

Does that maintain high norepinephrine ?

Jason notes the myth of self-determination. Diets have a 35 year history unblemished by success.

Snacking is not good.

So cortisol and norepinephrine will both be affected by stress. There is one more maladaptive tie-in. 




Thursday, May 7, 2015

Some on Maladaptive Overeating Behaviors

When we discovered overeating in our youth, we obtained a benefit from overeating. That is why we continued, and the problems developed.

What benefit? Well, if we have anxiety due to being slower than others in school, constantly told to hurry up, belittled by parents, teachers, harassed by other students, we develop anxieties. That is to be expected. Now sugar and starches cause a rise in blood sugar and insulin. These are sedatives, so the excess food takes the edge off life. Is it any doubt that I became addicted to food? And as I used food for relief, I never learned other more reasonable ways of dealing with the abuse.

Learning to deal with abuse is teachable, it can be learned. It is a very useful skill, once we learn. Some use self defacing humor or comments, not the best way I think. Some just walk away, blank the abuser. Some turn to something they are good at, studying something as a method of isolation, reducing the contact with abusive people. Some turn violent, beating on the abusers. Some of us have come to understand the abusers are just assholes, and avoid them.

Some things are up to us and some are not. If I take care of the things that are up to me, it becomes my responsibility to learn to deal with assholes, and to become self-sufficient in this activity. I can use a support group or mentors, live or dead, to figure out what should be done and carry on. The stoics have some good ideas. Ultimately, I have control over my personality, characteristic, and I can choose which characteristics to build and which to leave dormant. I can try to develop understanding of this problem, and ignore the detractors and the miss-informed. I am in control of my own thinking. Some may be right, some wrong, but I can ratchet my way toward the truth, as I test reason and make progress to food sanity. I cannot be returned to something I never had.

So I can go away and live in my head with my thoughts. I need not to be bothered with time pressures, for production, for revenue, for progress, although I am making progress from time to time. It is all about stoic self sufficiency, learning to take responsibility only for those things that are up to me, my desires, efforts, values, and value only virtues, the "goods".

Enough head noise. and a picture
Splat

Monday, May 4, 2015

More idiots again

Warning: political incorrect post. If you are easily offended,go away now.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prophet-muhammad-cartoon-shooting-leaves-2-gunmen-dead-1.3059927

A bait and shoot operation. You did not know how many Islams would attach, zero or a few. Is that what Christianity teaches? 

In Texas, is Muslim baiting a new sport? 

So you agitate against a religion and they strike back. Religions teaches emotional responses to every event. It is not the event that upsets, but rather your thinking about the event. There is not logic in religion. There is not logic in the action of either side here.

What do you expect? You stick a stick into a hornets nest and expect not to get stung?

You religious types are all living in a delusion anyway. Crazies exist. Get used to that. I personally choose my own delusions, as much reason and logic as is possible, making my own decisions based on my own logic, as true to first principals as is possible.  

Ban all religions. You religious folk are just living a delusion that you learned anyway. The high human characteristic is likely reasoning or logic anyway, so why not use a bit more of it?


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Friday, May 1, 2015

You cannot treat something you do not understand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_overeating

Wrong! wrong! wrong!   but who is listening?

Food addiction is not equal to binge eating disorder or to compulsive overeating or to maladaptive overeating behavior. All these are separate from disordered eating. Until I/we/you separate these and treat them separately, failure is assured.

Disordered eating is the result of culture, society, hectic life style; it is putting eating properly to low in your life priorities. It can be the result of lack of food knowledge, or stupid eating philosophies. It is often intentional disruption. It is often the start of other food related problems.

Food addiction is eating as a result of craving, and the cause of the craving is chemicals in the food. The test is remove the food, and the craving goes away. The solution; stop eating those foods, often wheat, sugar, and caloric dense carbohydrates, occasionally nuts and or diary products.

Maladaptive overeating behavior is the craving or hunger is the result of emotional stress, anxiety, boredom, indecision, loneliness, etc. These are the psychological causes group. This can be adrenaline rush re-feed, or adrenal exhaustion, and/or learned behavior. Typically, we need to learn other cooping methods, environmental changes to remove the condition, or learn to deal with the condition other than with food. CBT, REBT, PP, Philosophy, etc. as treatments.

Binge eating disorder is the medical description of overeating. It is often described independent of the cause, and may be anything that matches some form of loss of control of eating. This is why it is so difficult to treat.

Compulsive overeating is the term we use to apply to overeating caused by a craving, often unremitting, cause of craving is unknown. The hunger cycle also occurs, and this can result in confusion. We resist the craving, and become over-hungry, we overeat. The cravings may have some physical, chemical, or receptor cause, but for some are ever present. This we just must learn to live with. Gut mutilation helps some people.

There are numerous other causes and contributing factors. Environment, physical issues, cultural and social, habits, occupation, livelihood, philosophy, can also contribute. In addition, we can have some or all of these groups. The hunger cycle also occurs, and we must eat some.

Picture just because;
   

 

Tuesday, April 28, 2015

Habit overeating

There are many causes of overeating.  What I am describing and calling habit overeating is just one of those many causes.

Habit overeating is a group of  behaviors that just go together, where eating is one of those behaviors. We have been trained by society to do these. For example: popcorn and movies, evening TV and snacking, or sports watching and snacking. Baseball and hot dogs, or so I have been told.

Why do I eat two eggs for breakfast, well it is habit; but it is now habit to not eat sugars, most grains, and most starches. I am not ready to totally give rolled oats and potatoes yet. Why do I eat three time a day?

Some habits are part of our automatic response to life and are good. Others have past there usefulness, and I must let go of. When two behaviors are coupled, perhaps both must go.

One of the down side of getting older is our interests change. Yet I still find that I must be interested in doing something to find the motivation to do it, more so that when I was younger. I could force myself to do things I had little interest in doing. Now it is more difficult. Anything that has meaning, value, engagement, aka interest, is not a problem. But with age and loss of interests, the motivation to do, the desire to do, has become weak. I do not have the needs, the objectives if you prefer. Many of my earlier objectives have come to pass or have been abandoned or frustrated. Oh well shit happens, life goes on, and acceptance of the world around us takes place. Interests come and go. There are many things I could do, but none (few) that I want to do. That is the real problem.

Displacement of a habit is one way of change habits.  That is the process of ending a meal, then rushing off to do X, a thing with meaning, interest, engagement, flow, and if fate permits, achievement, satisfaction, stoic joy.

Enough.
picture just because: (pjb)
Brazeau, perhaps a bit of Photoshop filter Off SE corner of the dam.




Thursday, April 23, 2015

Learning to live craving and/or hungry

After all these years, I am concluding that I must learn to live craving or hungry. This latest try has just created more misery. Buddha said something like "life is suffering" or "life contains suffering". That may be it for some of us. A life of craving and/or hunger. LCHF is just fine but the craving is still there. And now one more chief pusher says if it is not working you must be doing something wrong. http://www.dietdoctor.com/the-5-most-common-mistakes-on-lchf   He is selling false hope.  

There are some of us that just suffer from some unknown mental or physical defect or characteristic that leaves us craving and/or hungry.  It seems that I am one.

Enough.



Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Gut bacteria and overeating




"Researchers in Shanghai studied mice who had been bred to be resistant to obesity. These mice remained slim despite being fed a rich diet and being kept from exercising. However, when some of these mice were injected with the human bacterium enterobacter, they quickly became obese.

Enterobacter was first linked with obesity after being found in high quantities in the gut of a morbidly obese human volunteer, said the report from Shanghai's Jiaotong University.

The mice were injected with the bacterium for up to 10 weeks as part of the experiment.

The experiments show that the bacterium 'may causatively contribute to the development of obesity' in humans, according to the paper published in the International Society for Microbial Ecology."

Anecdotally, a couple of humans loss weight on specific diets that did not feed the bacteria, but there was no total energy input available. So did they lose weight because they ate less by willpower, or limited menu, or because of not feeding bacteria?  

Wiki :

Enterobacter is a genus of common Gram-negative, facultatively anaerobic, rod-shaped, non-spore-forming bacteria of the family Enterobacteriaceae. Several strains of these bacteria are pathogenic and cause opportunistic infections in immunocompromised (usually hospitalized) hosts and in those who are on mechanical ventilation. The urinary and respiratory tracts are the most common sites of infection. The genus Enterobacter is a member of the coliform group of bacteria. It does not belong to the fecal coliforms (or thermotolerant coliforms) group of bacteria, unlike Escherichia coli, because it is incapable of growth at 44.5 °C in the presence of bile salts. Some of them showed quorum sensing properties as reported before [1][2]



So it should not be in the gut anyway, so WTF. More useless information with respect to obesity.

Ultimately, the question becomes if one is able to remove all carbohydrates with a caloric density of say 0.2 K/gm, can I adhere to the eating plan long term and lose weight? It is the adherence that is the problem, along with overeating of meat.

Enough. add picture:

Thursday, April 16, 2015

Happy Bacteria

"So when these bacteria get happy because of the quality and quantity carbohydrate available, these bacteria let loose a few peptides that they have collected up, opioid peptides, dopamine, morphine, whatever, and we like those"

 and

Reference   http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.ca/search/label/Fiaf%20%284%29%20memes%20and%20fat  Fiaf posts.

If a toxo can cause a mouse to commit suicide by cat, I guess perhaps the food driving life force could be controlled by bacteria.

Ah sure, well ok, how do I test that?

So if I never give those bacteria suitable food to collect up peptides, and never eat starches, the bacteria population should drop below some threshold level, and the craving should go away. OK.

So what does that mean.

No sugar, grain, roots, seeds, sugary fruits, dairy, nuts, processed meat beyond ground beef, very few stem.

So that leaves greens, beef, eggs, perhaps a bit of bacon, mushrooms, coconut oil, perhaps a bit of Harvest gold canola oil,

So it is a diet of beef and greens. Two clean weeks try I guess. I wonder how long before I can go two weeks clean?

Enough:






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