Something to chew on

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/30/diets-fat-real-food-obesity -- Zoe Harcombe

U-turn in our diet advice from “Farinaceous and vegetable foods are fattening, and saccharine matters are especially so” to “base your meals on starchy foods”

1869 tanner / Banting

Who was Tanner?

At first I thought perhaps he the doctor associated with Banting ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Banting) but no. That was Harvey.

So I googled it and came up with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_S._Tanner_%28doctor%29 a faster
Googling the phrase brought up Gary Taubes, we all know

Farinaceous and vegetable foods are fattening, and saccharine matters are especially so….In sugar-growing countries the negroes and cattle employed on the plantations grow remarkably stout while the cane is being gathered and the sugar extracted. During this harvest the saccharine juices are freely consumed; but when the season is over, the superabundant adipose tissue is gradually lost.
–Thomas Hawkes Tanner, The Practice of Medicine, 1869

So we have it.

http://www.senedd.assemblywales.org/documents/s21537/CO 15 Consultation Response - Zo Harcombe.html

So it is clear, sugar and starches are to be avoided, but how can we overcome our physical attraction to food?      "Choose not to eat and hunger simply vanishes."   not likely. Choosing to not eat would work, if the desires did not increase.

But how do people fast for long periods? Is just that simple, choose to not eat?

I have seen myself need to fast for most of two days for a medical scope up the rear. That was near the time of my low weight, when Dr. Tim got concerned with my weight loss. I was at that point down 66 kgs. after the two days fast and scoping, I lost control... (the switch got flicked)... gained 10 kg overnight, well in a few days, more or less.

So is it as simple as some form of "thinking makes it so." Or it is all just (or vanity, op opinions) impressions (or memes). (Marcus Aurelius, Quadi - 15, Red bird addition- what ever it is called)

How is a simpleton like me to make sense of this, or did I just?

Yah Sure

Sharma  http://www.drsharma.ca/whats-europe-doing-about-obesity.html
Reach, 
Effectiveness, 
Adoption, 
Implementation and 
Maintenance 

Plan a diet, do it and the weight will just fall off....

But you missed the issue.... being so driven ... motivated ... driven ... at to be able to overcome the physical desire to eat... a natural instinct that has gone amuck, run riot... out of control. That is the problem that causes obesity. 

FED UP

We went to Fed Up. It is quite entertaining to see a shallow coverage of this major problem in an hour and a half. Everything that was said was great, but you, no one, can provide adequate coverage in 1.5 hours.

The only point that I did not agree with is HFCS is equal to sugar. It is not equal, it is worse, but not by much. HFCS raises blood glucose faster than sugar. As I recall, it was due to fructose and glucose being absorbed in the mouth and throat going directly into the blood rather then into the portal vein system. 

I have done more Maffetone-ing, and have come to the realization that my carbohydrate tolerance is down about where Jimmy Moore is... trace amounts... perhaps a few greens... definitely less than 80 grams of potatoes... that would be 20 grams of carbohydrate at one meal.  I guess I will plant potatoes anyway, if it ever warms up. I have the seed sitting out now. I think that all I will do id plant them, not hill and weed them.  It has been freezing every night, well most nights anyway. The forecast says turning nice tomorrow, Saturday.

Enough - it is all about keeping insulin low anyway.    

Cravings yes/no

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2014/05/12/paul-jaminet-answers-your-questions-part-two/
got me going, and perhaps this is off topic and not the point.

Cravings are slightly more complicated than indicated. There are many causes. A deficiency in some vitamin, mineral, or even odd carbohydrate can cause these little rotten problems. Inositol, omega 3, Vit C, proteins, magnesium, all seem to trigger cravings for me. 75 to 100 gms of raw fried potato in the morning gets rid of my inositol / carbohydrate shortage issue.

It is not just gut microbes, but also the number of specific cells in liver. If we have gone our life to this point with an excess of carbohydrates, can we expect our liver to produce all the trace carbohydrates required? And our need for omega 3 also varies. A person who lives on fish, vs a person living on pork have two different omega 3 requirements. All the mineral ions are dependent on the concentration of each other.

Cravings are one of the primary reason for overeating, which is one of the primary reasons for obesity / difficulty staying on any diet. The other big reason is society pushing junk food, hyper-palatable foods, ignorant people creating temptations for those of us who must resist foods to stay at healthy weight. Yes, some of us have naturally over driven appetites.

And here is a little Pom video for your enjoyment. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml8KwCmob8 

Pom does not contain any real pomegranate juice by the way.

Food Addiction

There is no doubt that, for some of us, food addiction is real, but perhaps not for all. Do you get a buzz of honey? Not intended as a pun, it is the quick test. A teaspoons of honey in tea times two or three. Do you feel the buzz? If no, you are not an addict. Go away, you will never believe what I am about to say. If you feel the buzz, and like it, you are or will become a food addict. It is to that pleasant warm feeling that we become addicted to. We overeat, trying to stay in that buzz. That is the animal reaction, wanting more of the good stuff we like.

But how can honey be addicting. Well it is not, but fructose is. Warm hot drinks are quickly absorbed source of free fructose, warm is faster absorbed than cold. Fructose, absorbed in the mouth, gullet, esophagus, and upper stomach does not pass into the portal vein, but rather directly into the blood stream. Fructose blood concentrations go from nano-grams per liter to 100's nano-grams per liter, and the brain gets a buzz. Fructose crosses the blood brain membrane without an issue.

Now for the second punch, glucose drives up insulin, especially in the insulin resistant, (obese person) and insulin is a sedative, it makes us lay back a bit. This is also part of the glucose addiction side of the equation.

Now for the third punch, we were often given sugar as a distraction when we were small, resulting in a emotional or habitual component to addiction. Sugar and food, eating, consuming, snacking... became a maladaptive behavior, pushed by adults, and addicting us when we were small. Now sugar is everywhere.

Now how do we get out of the addiction - craving cycle? No fructose, very little glucose, and deal with all those emotions through Stoicism, CBT, or other method.

The hard part is avoiding fructose, and glucose with drug dealers everywhere using, pushing, and in denial of the problem.

We have the power of choice. Use it wisely.      

Quiting Carbohydrate

It will take some more effort beyond sugar, grains, manufactured products. I want roots. Tubers. bulbs. Is this nature or habit?

MY word on resistant and safe starches

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2014/05/06/safe-starches-and-human-variability/

I just do not care anymore. My body is changing, aging. Time to do the Maffetone test one more time. http://philmaffetone.com/2-week-test

This time I will look specifically at the desire to eat vs amount of carbs. Rigorous honesty, actually ate.

day 1, 104.5, May 7, 8.30am breakfast 3 bacon, 2 eggs, a bit of celery and a shake of RS in the eggs. drop of ketchup. < (fat left behind) 700C/4.5 =155C/hr not good

1.00 lunch 4.5 hrs 3 Bacon, onion, parsnip, cabbage, 700 C  /6 hr = 120C/hr

7.00 2 burgers and asparagus,  dab of ketchup, and dressing 600 C , total 2000 C

Day 2, 104.2, May 8,
7:30 4thin bacon, 2.5 eggs, 2mushrooms, celery, parsnip, and a dab of ketchup ~700 C/6.5 = ~108
2:00  2.5 Sausages, cabbage, dressing, ketchup, bit of burger, 700

and the wheels fell off.

- veins in hands standing out. Is that a sigh of dehydration or reduced/deleted glycogen supply? Not likely, but occasional. More often a function of local blood pressure. Raise one hand, lower the other and compare. 

Note that food logs can only underestimate consumption. You can remember eating something that was not there, but you can eat and forget.

Bovine Growth Factor

To increase production of milk, just a wee shot of bovine growth factor. Government says do not use, but it is available, in the refrigerator at the local farm supply store. So what do you suppose it is there for, other than for sale and use.

Is that why cheese and butter from the store tastes like more?  

Not Me I Think

http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html

It's not me that he quotes. I do not even agree with the statement; I would say "the only way to lose weight is to eat less and exercise more. The trick is getting myself to do that." No sugar, grains, omega 6 oils, dairy, is a start. No hyperpalatable foods also helps. A boring diet with adequate fat, protein, and lots of greens is part of the solution. Keeping busy at stuff we enjoy but are not food friendly is another big part.

We may enjoy TV and video games but these are food friendly. Lots of none food friendly places make also help. Simply recognizing that not eating (meal skipping) is healthy also, if we are obese. This may also goes against our culture, and the advise of the fat nutritionist.

Never take weight loss diet advise from a fat person, unless they are losing weight.  

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day. 

But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.

Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.

 

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day.
But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.
Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.
- See more at: http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrSharmasObesityNotes+%28Dr.+Sharma%27s+Obesity+Notes%29#sthash.LtGAuNZn.dpuf

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day.
But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.
Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.
- See more at: http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrSharmasObesityNotes+%28Dr.+Sharma%27s+Obesity+Notes%29#sthash.LtGAuNZn.dpuf

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day.
But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.
Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.
- See more at: http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrSharmasObesityNotes+%28Dr.+Sharma%27s+Obesity+Notes%29#sthash.LtGAuNZn.dpuf

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day.
But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.
Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.
- See more at: http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrSharmasObesityNotes+%28Dr.+Sharma%27s+Obesity+Notes%29#sthash.LtGAuNZn.dpuf

Getting around the starving portion is possible during the rapid at loss phase by eating no sugar, grains or dairy; nothing that will cause insulin generation, allowing fat to come out of the fat cells easily. The remainder of the body does know where the fat is coming from, therefore no starvation. To feed the gut we will need to eat fat 3 or 4 times a day.
But then there are the other 150 different “reasons to eat”, feeling deprived is one. Opening up to feel a bit of gratitude for life and the other wonders, even for the available real foods today may reduce the feeling of deprivation. To each negative thought, there is a work around to relieve that thought.
Most people, the wild humans, still need to want to do the work. Most of society lives in happy blissful pre-contemplation of any change of lifestyle.
- See more at: http://www.drsharma.ca/we-dont-know-much-about-obesity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DrSharmasObesityNotes+%28Dr.+Sharma%27s+Obesity+Notes%29#sthash.LtGAuNZn.dpuf